Why there is no available version of AIMP for Linux and macOS?

[Rustedwolf]

ORLY? So, why "your best" OS still not have "best" software?

    Milo: If they're so great, how come they're not tearing up the charts, babe?
    Rex: Because you never play them, babe. You suck.

    —from the Airheads movie

Same with your dev team - because you never write it...

[Artem]

Same with your dev team - because you never write it...

I have used these OS and I don't like it. So, I have no idea why I should develop software to OS that I don't like.

[Rustedwolf]

Because it would be a good developer practice? You know, platform independent software, bigger audience, keeping up with the trends or just simple politeness.

I'm not here to say "well you probably used in the old days and now it's different" - it's your decision on what to use. I'm personally using Linux Mint and haven't had that much of the problem with it (all best dev software is available there as well), but if I would develop software just for that platform - that would make me a hypocrite and a bad developer at the same time, since I would lose some of the audience.
 
But if we take for example MacOS... that's a premium software we're talking about, comrade. Most of the "cool kids" (developer rock stars, artists, pro's) use it. The reason you probably don't use it, it really hard to pirate it as most of the eastern Europe / Asia do with Windows software. Since tech-savy Linux users aren't interesting for you, why you don't want to drag the attention of mac users? The only good reason not to develop for Mac would be not having one to test software on it.

[Artem]

Because it would be a good developer practice? You know, platform independent software, bigger audience, keeping up with the trends or just simple politeness.

I don't believe in ideal world. Who will pay for development and support? Why it should be me?

[Rustedwolf]

Why it should be me?

It's your software, close source. Who if not you? In the end you're the one to decide. Don't want to do it? Fine. Just had to say from the start, not making bunch of excuses.

[Artem]

It's your software, close source. Who if not you?

=) Open sources will not solve it - people will not waste their time to re-write Windows-specified code to thier OS for free.

If you want to try to port it I will share sources of player's core for you.

[gumswap]

Guys, stop whinging that the free shit isn't free enough.

[Nakamura]

Ух тыыы, с 2015 года не заходил сюда!!! 5 лет уж прошло. Зашёл сейчас посмотреть какие есть новости, а оказалось, что "воз и ныне там" - нет версии AIMP для Линукса. А жаль... С Windows'ом-то много лет уже не работаем, но на мобильнике AIMP иногда используем.
Если я правильно понял, то и не предвидится версии для Linux пока, да?

[Алексей Долматов]

не предвидится версии для Linux пока, да?

Позиция разработчика однозначна и не раз уже была опубликована. Не нужно ждать AIMP на Linux. Потратьте это время на создание своего плеера для Linux или пообщайтесь с разработчиками уже созданных плееров.
P.S. Это раздел для иностранных пользователей. Есть более подходящие темы:
https://www.aimp.ru/forum/index.php?topic=23881.0
https://www.aimp.ru/forum/index.php?topic=42082.0

[bogy]

I have used these OS and I don't like it. So, I have no idea why I should develop software to OS that I don't like.

Microsoft never liked Linux, they even payed and bought companies (SCO) to do anything they could to stop linux advancing (SCO was the UNIX trademark/license holder back in the day, on which linux is anchored (via the Minix clone linus torvals once wrote))

nowadays, Microsoft still hates Linux, it's one of their biggest threats, especially on the servermarket they feel the heat of linux, also on the embedded market it's all linux... 

Still, microsoft has written quite some linux code, and even has a dedicated linux team nowadays, because it knows it's not important what Microsoft wants, but it's important what it's customers want...   Microsoft has learned that the hard way, very painfully...  in the '90s they were so happy they crushed novell and it's netware, now they were sure they would dominate the server market (except for mainframe), they even laughed at "free" linux-servers, nobody serious would use those... then Dell went Linux for server, then Compaq/HP started using it and soon all major companies had at least a few linux servers...    Today microsoft servers are mainly used to work with the desktops, to have a Domain Controller and have user rights and services for the users, but to the internet it's often nto more then the exchange server (for mail), IIS is mainly not available to the world as LAMP servers do a way better job and are deemed more secure.

if you want or don't want to develop for linux is your choice, just better not regret your choice later on.
for those who really want AIMP on linux; it seems to run fine on WINE, so don't whine about it, it's better to have it run in wine then not at all!

[vladmaster]

...
if you want or don't want to develop for linux is your choice, just better not regret your choice later on.
for those who really want AIMP on linux; it seems to run fine on WINE, so don't whine about it, it's better to have it run in wine then not at all!

Yeah, but the "sound effects" part doesn't work on Linux under WINE... It's one of the best features of AIMP missing on Linux. I think they could release a AppImage, Snap or Flaptak (universal package method). 

[endoplast]

I am delighted that we have this discussion in this forum. This means that there are a few of us crazy people who are not satisfied with GNU/Linux audio players. For most people they are valid but for those of us who have tried AIMP there is no other like it.

It is clear that Windows is the most used system on the planet, but this does not mean that in the future it will be. Maybe the system that could replace it has not been published yet or maybe it will be a variant of the ones we use now and the developers that want to be there will have to port their programs. It is also true that many successful programs are multiplatform.

What I mean is that, looking at it from this point of view, it would be a good option to port AIMP to other operating systems (as has been done with Android). There are lots of people waiting for AIMP to use it on Mac or any GNU/Linux distro.

Maybe a way to make this dream come true would be to reach an agreement with some distro to port it and include it in it. This distro would gain a lot of points for audiophiles and the community would benefit from it.

I currently use AIMP through WINE. It works but some functions give error and even reporting it to the WINE team have not been corrected. That is why I would beg the AIMP developer (I know he has said it is not part of his plans) or developers to port it.

I am not a developer but I would help in any way I can. Thanks in advance.

[Artem]

It is clear that Windows is the most used system on the planet, but this does not mean that in the future it will be.

I heard this argument 20 years ago. But Windows still alive...

What I mean is that, looking at it from this point of view, it would be a good option to port AIMP to other operating systems (as has been done with Android). There are lots of people waiting for AIMP to use it on Mac or any GNU/Linux distro. It works but some functions give error and even reporting it to the WINE team have not been corrected

What about vaunted open source community? Why no one can fix these issues? Are you think that rewrite the app is easier than fix compatibility issues? I think no...
Anyway, general issue of Linux is fragmentation. If you starts development for Linux, you starts development for few OS. I am not fanboy of Linux and I don't want to start this race.

[fluxtion]

=) Open sources will not solve it - people will not waste their time to re-write Windows-specified code to thier OS for free.

If you want to try to port it I will share sources of player's core for you.

Hello, Artem!

I understand your position on porting AIMP. While I don't necessarily agree with it, I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't sympathise. On multiple occasions, I've refused to port software I've written to OS X simply because I strongly dislike Apple and OS X (and also because developing for the Apple ecosystem when you aren't involved in the Apple ecosystem in any way is very expensive in both time and money). Ultimately, it's your time and effort that people are asking for, and it's your right to decline the requests for your time and effort.

However, I'd love to create a native Linux port if you're serious about your offer of sharing the source with a dedicated developer. I have professional experience in more than 20 languages - including, crucially, C and C++ - and at least three times as many technologies (e.g. SQL and db admin). I've ported multiple applications to and from Linux and Windows both with POSIX and without.

Anyway, I can create a faithful port that will properly represent the greatness of AIMP, if you'll allow me.

Thanks for creating the best media player on Windows. Personally, I love both Windows and Linux (though not so much what Windows has become since 8/10). I think Windows is a massively over-hated, underrated OS. I've always found it intuitive, powerful, and actually very stable: I've wrecked far fewer Windows boxes than I have Linux ones in my time, and I've got consumer Windows 7 machines in my house that have been powered on for years. But that's beside the point!

Best wishes,
Elliott

ETA: At one point, a few years ago, I considered reverse engineering AIMP to try to port it, but I decided it would just be too much work to reconstruct the whole thing and I was worried about pissing you off by doing it unofficially. I've cracked my own private copies of commercial software with x86 asm for fun before, with simple or moderate levels of DRM protection, but I'm not skilled enough to recreate the entirety of AIMP that way, I don't think!

[Artem]

However, I'd love to create a native Linux port if you're serious about your offer of sharing the source with a dedicated developer. I have professional experience in more than 20 languages -
including, crucially, C and C++ - and at least three times as many technologies (e.g. SQL and db admin). I've ported multiple applications to and from Linux and Windows both with POSIX and without.

I already have tried few ways some times ago:
1. Two developers contact to me and tried to port the core library to Linux, they failed, because architecture and code are optimized to Windows API platform.
2. I have tried to make my code compatible with WINE, but users don't like Wine, they want native port only. Its not a way.

Next, AIMP for Windows is written on Delphi (latest version). So, you will need to re-write it to C++ first, because FreePascal is not compatible with latest version of Delphi.

Another thing that I want to ask you: what reason to port Windows-specific player to another (too different) platform? Why Linux Community does not improve already created native players? Its easier way as I think.